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How Should Secular Humanists feel about ISIS/ISIL?

Posted on 18 September 2014 by The Secular Nerd


If you identify as a secular humanist, and try to live by the philosophy that is secular humanism, you may be feeling conflicted about ISIS/ISIL. For purposes of this article, we will just call them ISIL for now. If you are like me, and believe that life is very precious, and that religion should never dictate how other people live their lives, you may see the conflict in dealing with ISIL.

On one hand, you have a classified “terrorist” organization hell bent on establishing an Islamic state that is beheading and killing people left and right, those who don’t agree with them. On the other, they are human beings with a very radical ideology, but human beings none the less. How do we, secular humanists deal with two major things that we are directly against (killing others and forcing religion onto others)? They are beyond reasoning with since most radicals are focused on the extremes of their religion.

One thing in particular that I’ve seen, as someone who does not believe, or follows a dogmatic religion, is a very scary similarity between ISIL and our own Republican party in the United States. A similarity that can only occur when extremes from most religions inject themselves into politics. Below are the beliefs shared by ISIL and most if not all of the Republican GOP:

  • They both are strongly against Evolution being taught in school [ISIL Link] [Republican Link]
  • They both liken gays to pedophiles [ISIL Link] [Republican Link]
  • They both believe that religion should rule quite like a theocracy for the government

The only difference here between Republicans and ISIL, is that Republican extremists don’t go on religious holy crusades and kill people. They usually just stick with the 2nd amendment as protection enough to “defend your family” and justify things like “Stand your ground” and other things Republican supporters and congressmen alike have defended.

That doesn’t make Christian extremists any less dangerous or violent though. Throughout the last few decades we have seen many people kill in the name of “God” and Christianity in America. We have seen abortion clinics blown up by “pro-life” supporters (the irony is killing people, but they believe it’s justified to save an unborn zygotes life). We have seen mothers justify the death of their children, saying that “God” told them to. In the bible, as well as the Koran, we can find it laced with violence, rape, murder, torture, slavery, and other things we Secular Humanists feel are extremely unethical and immoral.

So this leads us to a fork in the road. Do we need to take out ISIL before more innocent people die by a radical extremists hands? Do we justify murder, to prevent murder? Is it considered murder instead of defending the weak or diversified population of the world? How can we Secular Humanists solve this issue when it’s beyond rational and reasonable negotiations?

We have similar conflicts in the United States. We find that talking to right-wing extremists is impossible because they won’t see the reasoning in our ideology. We don’t see what they call rational in their ideology, but we understand what makes them think like they think. They make up lies and propaganda for what we non-Republicans believe. So what do we do in a situation where rational discussion is impossible to be had?

In the United States, we can vote to rid those who refuse to see reason or compromise. In the other parts of the world however, where they don’t respond to voting, only violence, I’m afraid the only response is violence. We have an ethical obligation to humanity to protect itself against credible threats. We fight viruses all the time. We fight harmful diseases all the time. How is ISIL any different than a disease or virus that can kill you?

Follow me for a moment into my reasoning. I view religion as a virus thanks to Dr. Darrell Ray and his book, “The God Virus”. With an overwhelming amount of people carrying this virus of death, destruction, and destabilization, there’s no inoculation. We can’t treat this virus with a dose of rational thought. These people were born with an AK-47 in one hand, and a Koran in the other. Quite like the Republican extremists of today except it’s a Bible.

The Islamic extremist point of view goes one step further than Christian extremists. It actually acts on killing, rather than talking about killing (for instance, Christians wanting to put to death all gay people). Some Christian extremists do indeed act on that impulse to kill. Luckily, it’s not an epidemic (yet). The Muhammad Virus is strong with these Islamic extremists. It’s too powerful to inoculate, and it has consumed them whole.

Do I believe they are going to come to the United States if left unchecked? It’s possible. Do I believe they have the power to destroy the United States? No. Why? Because only we have the power to destroy ourselves. Look what we did in the name of freedom? We took our freedom away, to protect freedom. Patriot Act, Global 24/7 unwarranted surveillance programs, police departments receiving war equipment. We sacrificed our freedom, in the name of freedom. We wracked up a debt in the trillions by putting two wars on a credit card.

We bring our own pain onto ourselves. We meddle. We screwed up going to Iraq, and now we need to meddle some more. We have been caught in this endless cycle. I do believe we owe it to the world though, to try to clean up a horrible mess. A mess that was already there, but we decided to make it worse. This conflict has been happening since the dawn of religion and man. So because we meddle, we have threats against us. We are NOT the world police, but I do believe the world should come together to eradicate this virus. We as one planet need to fight ISIL, just like we would fight AIDS, or any other disease or virus. ISIL is no different than Ebola when it comes to trying to rationally get it to stop killing. The only difference is that ISIL will discriminate against who it kills, while Ebola doesn’t care who it kills.

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Religious beliefs for corporations win in Supreme Court

Posted on 30 June 2014 by The Secular Nerd

Today, the Supreme Court voted 5-4 in what is considered a landmark decision that gives corporations the right to decide what their employees receive coverage for, in terms of their insurance they have with that corporation. What does this mean? It means a company can pick whatever they want to deny, and say it’s due to religious belief.

I can’t stress enough how hypocritical Hobby Lobby is in this case, since their 401 k retirement plans were invested in the pharmaceutical companies that made contraceptives [Source Mother Jones], then through whatever backroom political pressure meeting, decided to go to the Supreme Court to fight for the right to deny their own employees from being covered for contraceptives.

What’s going to happen when corporations like Hobby Lobby say “It’s against my belief to receive coverage for blood transfusions”? Jehovah Witnesses come to mind with that. One thing you need to ask yourself is this: “Is it right that any corporation can have control and say on what coverage you can or cannot receive?”. Before you start to say “Well, they can just find another job!”. Think about that statement, and think about your current situation. Are you in a position yourself to have free roam to have a change of where you work freely? Do your relatives have a choice in where they work?

Regardless of if you make that statement or not, it’s a crime against humanity. Contraceptive is used for hundreds of other things besides preventing pregnancy. It’s used for the treatment of painful menstruation cycles. It’s used to prevent some extremely life threatening conditions such as cancer of the ovaries and womb – [Source]. All this is, is an overreach of the Supreme Court. They are more fearful of the loudmouth minority fundamentalists, because they are capable of triggering radical things. What things you ask? Oh, I don’t know, like shoot up abortion clinics [Source] (Google for more than this), bomb abortion clinics [Source].




Justice Samuel Alito wrote in his majority opinion, over a dissent from the four liberal justices, that forcing companies to pay for methods of women’s contraception to which they object violates the 1993 Religious Freedom Restoration Act. He said the ruling is limited and there are ways for the administration to ensure women get the birth control they want. – [Source Boston Globe]


Corporations qualify for protection of religious beliefs under the law, Justice Alito writes for the majority, because even though corporate personhood is a “legal fiction,” those corporations are formed by human beings and they represent the people who are associated with them and their rights. Protecting the corporation thus protects the people who own and control it. – [Source New York Times]


I personally cannot wait until secular businesses fire people for radical religious beliefs, and then rely upon this ruling. The Supreme Court just approved of discrimination based on “personal religious beliefs” because “those corporations are formed by human beings and they represent the people who are associated with them and their rights. Protecting the corporation thus protects the people who own and control it”.

We live in a country where capitalism does not represent humanity’s best interest. It represents the corporation’s best interest. – The Secular Nerd

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Top 5 GOP Fails for June 2014

Posted on 29 June 2014 by The Secular Nerd

In this new top 5 segment, each month we will list the fails/fallacies of the GOP party backing it up with evidence at the time, along with any fallacies they commit and the definition of said fallacy. We will not state opinion, but the irony here is the fact that we are rather biased. This is “nothing but the facts”, so help me Flying Spaghetti Monster.


5. Jordan Haskins running for office with felonies involving masterbation

A convicted felon running for a Michigan House of Representatives seat this November isn’t getting support, or opposition, from the Saginaw County Republican Party he has filed to represent.

Jordan Haskins’ record of criminal offenses dating back to his teenage years are mainly tied to a sexual fetish the candidate says he has since left behind him.

Haskins admitted to police that he scaled fences and trespassed on both public and private property in order to take vehicles for joyrides and to facilitate a fetish he referred to as “cranking.” Police reports state he disconnected the spark plugs on a vehicle and then masturbated while attempting to turn over the engine. – [Source MLive] [Alternate Source The Raw Story]

Saginaw resident Jordan Haskins is the lone Republican candidate who is running for the 95th State House District seat in November 2014. Neil Barris |

Saginaw resident Jordan Haskins is the lone Republican candidate who is running for the 95th State House District seat in November 2014.
Neil Barris |

The Secular Nerd:

This speaks for itself.




4. Suing the President for using executive orders granted to him for being the President

President Barack Obama on Friday slammed Republicans for a forthcoming lawsuit against him over alleged abuse of executive power, saying such actions were only necessary because the GOP has been unwilling to compromise on even the most basic issues.

“Now Republicans are mad at me for taking these actions. They’re not doing anything, and now they’re mad that I’m doing something,” Obama said during a speech in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

“If you’re mad at me for helping people on my own, then why don’t you join me and we’ll do it together,” he added. – [Source NBCNews] [Alternate Source NPR]


House Republicans argue the illegality of executive action signings, like one in April 2014 in which President Obama acted to close the gender compensation gap among federal contractors.

House Republicans argue the illegality of executive action signings, like one in April 2014 in which President Obama acted to close the gender compensation gap among federal contractors.

The Secular Nerd:

Article 2, Clause 1, Section 1 of the Constitution states [Source Cornell University Law School]: “The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected….”

United States Presidents issue executive orders to help officers and agencies of the executive branch manage the operations within the federal government itself. Executive orders have the full force of law when they take authority from a power granted directly to the Executive by the Constitution, or are made in pursuance of certain Acts of Congress that explicitly delegate to the President some degree of discretionary power (delegated legislation).” – [Source Wikipedia] [Alternate Source USA.Gov]

Congress may attempt to overturn an executive order by passing legislation (a bill) that opposes the order. However, the President can veto that bill, and Congress would then need to override that veto to pass the bill. Also, the Supreme Court can declare an executive order to be unconstitutional.” – [Source USA.Gov]

Total count of President Obama’s Executive Orders (As of 6/20/2014): 182.     George W. Bush: 291.    Bill Clinton: 364.     George Bush: 166     Ronald Reagan: 381  – [Source The American Presidency Project]



3. Rush Limbaugh’s book denied shelf access at a bookstore, and he loses it

…This is exclusionary, it’s racist, it’s bigoted, and it’s the opposite of everything they claim to be.  And it’s exactly what they accuse us of being.  They claim that they’re tolerant. They claim they’re open-minded. They claim that they are colorblind and all that.  They are the most bigoted, racist people. They exclude here and exclude there and then they don’t make any money and they can’t figure out why.

My two books are in the top five on the New York Times best-seller list, and here’s a woman at a bookstore who wants to sell books, is begging people to buy ’em, proudly says that two of the books in the top five are not even available at her store, and she wants accolades for that. These people are loony. They simply are dumb.  They don’t have the slightest idea what they’re doing.  And they happen to be running the country.  And I don’t just mean in Washington. People like this are in charge of the public school system. People like this are teaching your kids. People like this are running day care.  People like this show up at Obama’s fundraisers.

Limbaugh’s mention of the store was prompted by Teaching for Change Executive Director Deborah Menkart‘s remarks at a C-SPAN-taped event at Busboys and Poets for an unrelated book, Brazil’s Dance with the Devil, which aired Sunday. Menkart gave the opening speech and said 90 percent of children’s books that Teaching for Change sells at the bookstore are by or about people of color, specifically noting that the shop does not sell Limbaugh’s best-selling children’s book. She said the bookstore proves there is a market for these books by or about minority people, but then added that the bookstore isn’t breaking even and asked the audience for support through donations.” – [Source Washington City Paper] [Alternate Source Daily Kos]


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The Secular Nerd:

Fallacy List time:

  • confirmation bias: This refers to a form of selective thinking that focuses on evidence that supports what believers already believe while ignoring evidence that refutes their beliefs. Confirmation bias plays a stronger role when people base their beliefs upon faith, tradition and prejudice. (“This is exclusionary, it’s racist, it’s bigoted, and it’s the opposite of everything they claim to be.  And it’s exactly what they accuse us of being.”) The rebuttal is:  “Menkart gave the opening speech and said 90 percent of children’s books that Teaching for Change sells at the bookstore are by or about people of color, specifically noting that the shop does not sell Limbaugh’s best-selling children’s book. ” The bookstore “proves there is a market for these books by or about minority people, but then added that the bookstore isn’t breaking even and asked the audience for support through donations.” (It’s a bookstore focused on minorities, by minorities and/or for minorities)
  • ad hominem:  An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). (Practically everything in confirmation bias)
  • appeal to fear: When fear, not based on evidence or reason, is being used as the primary motivator to get others to accept an idea, proposition, or conclusion. (“People like this are in charge of the public school system. People like this are teaching your kids. People like this are running day care.  People like this show up at Obama’s fundraisers.”)
  • The list can go on, but I believe I made my case.




2. Ann Coulter calls soccer a liberal conspiracy

“Liberal moms like soccer because it’s a sport in which athletic talent finds so little expression that girls can play with boys,” Coulter wrote. “No serious sport is co-ed, even at the kindergarten level.”

They’re doing an incredible job of hiding all those girls on the field this week.

The 52-year-old also ripped the lack of scoring in soccer (“No other ‘sport’ ends in as many scoreless ties as soccer”) and how they don’t let players use their hands.

“What sets man apart from the lesser beasts, besides a soul, is that we have opposable thumbs,” she wrote. “Our hands can hold things. Here’s a great idea: Let’s create a game where you’re not allowed to use them!” – [Source San Jose Mercury News] [Alternate Source The Kansas City Star]


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The Secular Nerd:

This speaks for itself. The biggest fallacy is Appeal to Tradition, at least what she feels is tradition, which are contact sports.



1. Timothy Ray Murray believes he won because the candidate who did win is an android

Murray claimed that Rep. Lucas was “executed by The World Court on or about Jan. 11, 2011 in Southern Ukraine. On television they were depicted as being executed by the hanging about the neck until death on a white stage and in front of witnesses.”

 He stated that while “it is possible to use look alike artificial or man-made replacements,” such “replacements” are not human, and therefore ineligible to serve in office. He also assured the board that he “will NEVER use Artificial Intelligence look alike to voice what The Representative’s Office is doing nor own a robot look alike.” – [Source The Raw Story] [Alternate Source New York Daily News]

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The Secular Nerd:

All I can say is, this speaks very loudly for itself.


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The Secular Nerd’s Opinion on the Iraq conflict

Posted on 25 June 2014 by The Secular Nerd

If you aren’t living under a rock, you would know the current conflict in Iraq is a very real and very serious issue. It has left me very conflicted with a lot of things. On one hand, I know that the United States was 100% in the wrong with going in there in the first place. It has almost everything to do with what is happening today. On the other, I can’t see us having anything good come out of trying to fix what we caused.

Over the last month, ISIS has moved across Iraq almost like a game of Risk. I apologize for the analogy, but it’s true. Iraqi soldiers and police have been losing on every front as they slowly work toward the capital, capturing strategic areas one right after the other. It’s a very real issue, and I feel utterly terrible to be an American right now. My country under the Bush Administration ransacked the country under false pretences that there were weapons of mass destruction. It can be a very serious feeling of guilt to be a part of a country that its government did that the people did not want done.

Al-Qaeda inspired militants stand with captured Iraqi Army Humvee at a checkpoint outside Beiji, north of Baghdad (AP) (Click picture for Telegraph article)

Al-Qaeda inspired militants stand with captured Iraqi Army Humvee at a checkpoint outside Beiji, north of Baghdad (AP) (Click picture for Telegraph article)


We are faced with even more guilt now, because we don’t want to go back to Iraq to clean up the mess we left, as well as caused. It has led me to believe and come to only one conclusion. This was either completely our doing, or it was inevitable and we only sped up the process. Speaking a lot with the secular community, I have gotten about the same conclusions from others. It’s a very difficult situation and those that seriously want to help those suffering have their hands tied.

A friend of mine on Facebook and very prominent middle-eastern Atheist Faisal Saeed Al Mutar has been describing the feelings he has had watching as his country Iraq is spiralling out of control. I feel sincerely petrified and horrible for him, and his countries innocent people having their home overran by radicals. I also feel extremely guilty that I still don’t want to have our country go back there in full force. We were not welcomed there, and we certainly and rightfully so were wrong in the first place to “free” them.

Saddam Hussein was a  ruthless dictator. We all agree that he did horrific crimes against humanity. He also understood however how his region and neck of the woods worked. He understood what would happen if there were any signs of weakness in the regime and its military force. He knew what was at stake if he flinched, and dealt with uprisings brutally to deter other types of uprisings or rebels. I can’t condone his crimes against humanity, but I can’t help but have that lingering bitter taste in my mouth when I say “He did what he felt was necessary to maintain order”.

Am I a horrible person for believing that? Am I just as guilty as him when it came to the atrocities that he did to maintain order? I don’t believe so, no. The Middle East has always been brutal. From the time that you can hold an AK-47, you understood that at any moment you could die. As this article describes [The Washington Post – The Middle East, explained in one (sort of terrifying) chart] everyone grows up knowing who is the enemy. They acknowledge the fact that at any moment, they could die, and through their religion(s), they accept death and believe that by killing their enemies, they are doing their religion(s) a great justice.

I know that doesn’t hold true for everyone. Especially those in lest hostile cities/areas. But think about it? Schools teach children at an early age how to kill your enemy [Al Qaeda Opens Syrian Jihad School], and if you Google for more information/facts about this, you find even more terrifying things (to us Americans) happening in schools. This is the way of the Middle East. It’s not everyone’s way, but it’s the general overall life and cycle of endless violence and hostility.


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Obama’s Victory for the Future

Posted on 07 November 2012 by The Secular Nerd

It has been such a very long and hard campaign. Facebook ablaze every day with Romney’s antics, fact checks, and some good old fashioned poking fun pictures. Thank the flying spaghetti monster it’s all over. There were quite a few victories on the 6th, for a country divided in two. What does this mean though, for the red states?

My opinion on this, based on being in a red state (Arkansas), is that it’s time to either get with the program, or be left in the dark ages. Marijuana became legal for recreational use in Colorado and Washington last night, while medical Marijuana was blocked in the south (Arkansas) by people with pitch forks. Yes it’s an exaggeration, but I’d be lying if I said they didn’t have anything in their hand (the bible) while they made that choice to block medical marijuana from people who could greatly benefit from its uses.

A good friend and co-worker of mine has a daughter, who is going through the harsh lifestyle of treating cancer. The synthetic cannabis that she uses has been helping her get through it, in the ways that it can. If Marijuana was legal for medical purposes, it could of helped thousands of people dealing with glaucoma, cancer, and more. I wonder sometimes, if these people who are so greatly against it, are so blinded by their faith, that they forget about everyone else around them. I think a lot has to do with experience.

My good friend is religious, yet he strongly supports medical marijuana. Why? Because he’s compassionate. Because he’s living with the worry every night, for his daughters recovery. That’s just one man, and one person, out of thousands upon thousands of others every day, worried for their loved ones or friends. It’s almost in comparison to preventing people from getting flu shots, because X god will take care of those people. If it’s “his” will to take that person to heaven, then people accept that. Instead of preventing that person from getting sick in the first place, or treating the illness, people commit legal murder every day.

I stayed away from Facebook until Obama’s victory speech, because I was sick of the politics, sick of the bashing, sick of the worrying. It’s over now. We have four more years to stick with the plan, rebuild America, move it forward, and make red states realize that child abuse, legal murder, and bigotry has to go. I’m going back to my secular humanism side now, and dumping my militant tendencies since the election is over, and rational people got what the country needed. Now it’s time to focus locally.

-The Secular Nerd

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Libya: Planned, or just really angry?

Posted on 16 September 2012 by The Secular Nerd

Afghans burn the U.S. flag in Herat

If you haven’t been hiding under a rock this week, you would know the craziness that is going on around the world that was supposedly caused by an anti-muslim satirical video. Protesters in several locations on the other side of the pond gathered and attacked U.S. interests (embassies) and on the streets.

What’s particularly interesting about this whole deal, is that there have been reports that this was carefully planned for quite some time.

A deadly assault on a U.S. consulate in Libya was a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Muslim video, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations said Sunday, even as Libya’s president insisted the attackers spent months preparing and carefully choosing their date — the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. [AP/Google]

Ambassador Susan Rice seems to believe (according to the evidence gathered so far) this was not the case, however had this to add:

“It seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons,” Rice said, adding that such weaponry is easy to come by in post-revolutionary Libya.

Libya’s interim president had this to say about his claims that it was planned:

“It was planned, definitely. It was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago,” el-Megarif said. “And they were planning this criminal act since their arrival.”

Who or what do we believe with this? As a skeptic, and as someone who saw the video, I honestly believe it was carefully planned. I believe the video was used as an excuse to gather even more support for the terrorist attacks and the murders of several good people. I believe this, because of this article and many more like it that are outside the United States and its media outlets. If I’m wrong, I’ll be the first to admit to it, but there are too many red flags on this one boys and girls.

“I do not exclude discovering things that will link al-Qaida and the US consulate attack,” said Mr Megaryef but added that it was “very early to talk about the investigation.”

His comments come as al-Qaida said the deadly attack in Libya was in revenge for the killing of the network’s number two Sheikh Abu Yahya al-Libi, SITE Intelligence Group reported.

“The killing of Sheikh Abu Yahya only increased the enthusiasm and determination of the sons of (Libyan independence hero) Omar al-Mokhtar to take revenge upon those who attack our Prophet,” said al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula said in a statement, quoted by the US-based monitoring group. [Herald Sun]

One particular article has me thinking though. One of the individuals who were slain in the attacks was Christopher Stevens. He was brutally raped and put out on display. What they did was unforgivable in my opinion, but were the circumstances of which led up to his murder provoked?

I’d like to take a moment to reflect on the irony, or perhaps the term might be more an oxymoron. That is a region in our world that is very much so against homosexuality (they brutally murder LGBT’s) , yet they performed sexual acts as a group on him that is completely against their beliefs.:

“Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant! But his people gave no other answer but this: They said, “Drive out the followers of Lut from your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!” But We saved him and his family, except his wife; her We destined to be of those who lagged behind. And We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)!” (Qur’an 27:55-58)

We live in a world full of questions, full of violence, and full of hypocrites. It may never end until we can rid ourselves of the hate, the lies, and religious bigotry. Below, is the video that supposedly sparked all this (Not accessible in all countries, due to YouTube doing its part to prevent idiots from getting all worked up over it):

– The Secular Nerd

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Clint Eastwood, make my furniture

Posted on 01 September 2012 by The Secular Nerd

Clint Eastwood at the RNC

Besides the fact that it was one of the most painful speeches I have ever volunteered to listen to, it made amazing meme’s flooding my Facebook newsfeed.  What started off as a “celebrity endorsement” feeling, quickly escalated into a spiraling out of control babbling futile attempt at comedy, poking fun of an invisible Obama sitting next to him in a empty chair.

Yes, the picture is a parody image, but you can view the entire speech above. It all went downhill from there on out. The man is in his 80’s, and I would never make fun of him I always respect my elders like my mother has taught me, and I still respect his film making career… but this was just insane. He poked fun at Obama’s election, and put much emphasis on Oprah “crying”, to get a laugh out of the audience. He then went on to tell that he had not cried so much as he did realizing there were “23 million” unemployed people in this country.

I can’t stress this enough, how Republicans place blame on Obama for Bush Jr’s presidency farce. Every sane democrat… hell, every sane, rational person in the world knows that Obama is cleaning up after Bush’s presidency. I’d like to also note, that “W” never came to the RNC, to show support for Mitt. That has to say something right there.

There’s a few questions I’m asking my invisible Clint Eastwood as we speak, but he seems to not be able to answer:

  • Where were you going with half your questions you just stumbled with your words?
  • Where were you going with the Oprah part?
  • Did you know Mitt Romney went to Law School at Harvard when you said that the White House doesn’t need Attorneys?
  • Do you realize that a president has to weigh the pro’s and con’s of every decision he makes?
  • What were you meaning about Obama going to colleges talking to the students about the ever looming darkness of student loans?
  • Did you mean that the Republicans get paid off, since they are “our employees”?
  • Did you even have a speech or notes prepared going on stage?

All in all, I am deeply disappointed in you Clint Eastwood. I thought that was the most painful speech I have ever listened to, and all I could think about to myself while watching this, is “man, conservatives are eating every little bit up. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.” Thanks for the laughs at you, not with you. (Yes, it’s brutal, but I’m just saying it like it is)

– The Secular Nerd


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First Medical Marijuana State of the South?

Posted on 29 August 2012 by That Heathen Girl

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First Medical Marijuana State of the South?

   Living in Arkansas, we’ve all been subjected to southern society and their demands. It is impossible to avoid religion and conservatism. Statistically speaking, there are more ‘immoral’ people living in the bible belt than anywhere else. Some Christians can spend more time converting than helping people down here.
For a long time, the state of Arkansas has been the strictest as far as pot laws are concerned. However, this month the Arkansas’ Secretary of State office confirmed that the issue will be on the ballot this November.

I like so many others could really benefit from Medical Marijuana, instead of polluting our bodies with narcotic medications to kill the pain. At least marijuana isn’t addictive and doesn’t cause horrible withdrawals. For those of you that aren’t familiar with some of the things it can do, it can:
-relieve chronic and neuropathic pain
-increase appetite
-decrease nausea
-relax muscles

For someone that suffers with chronic pain, it could do so much for them. However, down here in the south it could prove to be difficult to convince conservatives of it’s benefits. Marijuana is already all over the south, being sold to people, which is in fact illegal. However, even if a Medical Marijuana Dispensary opened up in Arkansas, that wouldn’t mean that everyone would be smoking pot. It would just mean that the people that really need help could go to the doctor and get a prescription for it. It would be just any other prescription you could get, and people do sell them on the streets too but you don’t see them getting all bent out of shape about that.
The Family Council Committee, a group whose purpose is to instill traditional family values through politics, said they would be fighting the proposal. Jerry Cox, the President of the committee, issued a statement saying:

“Substance abuse creates very real problems for families,” Cox said. “If a husband or wife is addicted to something, it’s going to put a strain on that marriage. It’s going to put a strain on their kids. If you think we have problems with marijuana now, just wait until it becomes legally available.”

Wait, how can they be addicted to something that isn’t addictive?
He also went as far as to bring smoking into the statement:

“It’s the only medicine you smoke. The health community has spent almost fifty years trying to stop smoking. Now a group of people wants Arkansas doctors to start encouraging just that: Smoking for your health. It just doesn’t make sense.”

Now, just to clarify, Cigarette smoke is way more harmful than the smoke from marijuana. I do agree that the smoke itself can be harmful, but scientist have found that it is not the plant itself that is harmful. Depository’s always have plenty of other marijuana products for patients. All pain medications have side effects and harmful long term effects such as liver damage. Besides, there are always pot brownies.
My point is, I’ve been trying to inform as many people as possible so that when November gets here, people will vote for the legalization of medical marijuana. It would mean that the people of Arkansas could get the help they need. I know I will be voting for it when November 6th gets here.

– That Heathen Girl

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Todd Akin was keeping it real

Posted on 25 August 2012 by The Secular Nerd

Todd Akin

I will admit when I am oblivious to beliefs of religious or political organizations, I am usually not shocked when I hear about them. When I found out what Todd Akin had said, it blew my mind. Not just what he said about “legitimate rape”, but that MANY believe this to be fact. Here is the quote, straight from the horses mouth:

First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. [TPM]

Thousands upon thousands of male conservatives believe this. Todd was just keeping it real, because he thought the whole world knew this fallacy. When the shit storm hit the internet and other media outlets, he quickly retracted his statement with this:

 In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it’s clear that I misspoke in this interview, and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year. All of us understand that rape can result in pregnancy & I have great empathy for all victims. I regret misspeaking. [Yahoo]

Any rational thinking person would know his first quote was him speaking as though it was fact. Any rational thinking person would also know his second quote was him scared for his political career. It’s a fairly well guarded secret, except for the occasional slip up’s, but doesn’t that make you wonder why it’s a secret thought? Could these people realize that deep down, this might not only be wrong to use this as an excuse against abortion, but that it’s actually wrong anyway?

This man is on the Committee for Science, Space, and Technology. I don’t think he understands the first thing about biology.

– The Secular Nerd

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The Dalai Lama had a point…

Posted on 24 August 2012 by That Heathen Girl

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“This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.” – Dalai Lama

What if all the religions sacrificed the need to build monuments and temples to their faith and instead built schools, houses, even hospitals. If they instead used kindness to their fellow man instead of living in fear of some unknown entity. Helping their fellow man because they care, not out of fear of some unknown entity. Not to say I condemn them for their beliefs, because I’m just not that kind of person. I live in the bible belt, and there can be up to 10 churches in one town around here. That’s just way too much! If they used that money to help the community instead of building fancier and fancier churches, they could help their fellow man.

I’m That Heathen Girl, and I figured since the Secular Nerd posted such a thorough opening post I’d introduce myself.
You can check out our bio’s to learn more about us. We will also have links to our personal sites at a later date.

The kind of posts you can look forward to from me are going to be the entertainment reviews. Some of my nerdy points of interest are:
– Books & Movies
– Graphic Design & Photography
– PC Gaming

Welcome to the site and enjoy!
– That Heathen Girl


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